>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's strength is he's strong on message. when he's scripted and delivering a message, he does it well. romney's weakness on the contrary is when he has to ad-lib. he's bad at ad-libbing. he failing into making ill-fated bets, saying thing he shouldn't say. obama's weakness is that he hates romney. that's a weakness, because obama does have this tendency to come off as being a little arrogant, kond sending. that can be unlikeable. let me bring in our guest, jonathan allen, senior correspondent at politico. who do you think about the list? >> i think you guys hit for "the cycle" clearly. to mix the sports metaphors. >> i like that. >> i